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Blueovalz
12-02-2014, 11:45 PM
I finally decided on a sway bar configuration for the project. I found a couple of sway bars that would fit (Porsche 911 rear bar was one that would fit almost perfectly), but not knowing exactly what I needed in terms of size, I'm not ready to use them. Because of limited sizes from donor-car bars, and not wanting to commit to custom bent bars (unless I knew exactly what I needed), I decided on a NASCAR style bar. They are cheap on Ebay, come in a multitude of sizes, and can provide an almost infinite range of stiffness with the long arms. I chose a medium-sized diameter of splines (1.25") (because of the long list of available diameters), and am using the standard 37.5" length. I was able to purchase a group of the smallest 4 bars on Ebay for real cheap (new), so the only thing left to do was install them. Again, my chassis does not lend well to the addition of yet another piece of equipment in an already very cramped space under the bodywork.

These bars can use a tubular housing, which I chose to insert in place of the existing rear bulkhead crossbar over the transaxle. Thus the bar's housing in essence is a part of the framing. I removed the existing brace, modified the posts that hold the cross-bar, and then machined and welded all the aluminum parts needed to bolt the sway bar housing back in place.

Existing cross-bar:
http://www.fototime.com/D55ACDF5D5EBFE8/standard.jpg

After the top of both posts was cut off, I inserted a machined piece of aluminum into the ends (drill press and carbide tipped hole saws make a poor man's milling machine):
http://www.fototime.com/08F604F99C393EA/standard.jpg

Drill and tap threads to fix plates into each post:
http://www.fototime.com/2C127597A0ADD22/standard.jpg

Then weld saddles (2" square tubing) onto the top of each plate that will hold the bar's housing in place. I welded a long piece in place, and then cut the ends off after it was all done to ensure they were aligned with each other:
http://www.fototime.com/9C9E4C92B4F5812/standard.jpg

The housing in place, but not yet welded to the saddles. Plastic bushings slide into each end, and then the sway bar slides into the bushings, with shaft collars on each side to hold the bar and bushings in place:
http://www.fototime.com/8F462075C08DE44/standard.jpg

With bar installed:
http://www.fototime.com/594FB5B2ED1B2F8/standard.jpg

Nidrahynnad
12-03-2014, 08:36 AM
Awesome job! I like the innovation in your mounting solution...wish I had the fabricating skills to do stuff like that.

Dan

Sulley
12-03-2014, 11:59 AM
I would love to see that car when it is finished!

Blueovalz
12-03-2014, 04:04 PM
I would love to see that car when it is finished!

Funny thing is that I would too. Perhaps next summer I can get some warm weather painting done, and have this thing "finished" enough to where I can make improvements or enhancements as time and money permits.

Sulley
12-04-2014, 10:27 PM
You have to have it ready in time for the Manta reunion!

Blueovalz
12-05-2014, 01:48 PM
And then find a way to get it there.

Sulley
12-06-2014, 08:39 AM
With your skills you can fabricate a trailer!

Blueovalz
12-06-2014, 03:46 PM
I would have had one a long time ago, but storing it is the problem. Kinda like a boat...its more economical to rent one a few times out of the year than own one.

Blueovalz
12-16-2014, 03:28 PM
Finished up the rear X-bracing that I had to modify (re-make) after the fabrication of the sway-bar housing.

http://www.fototime.com/0C51190E50D33D3/standard.jpg

In the meantime, another issue is popped up in that the sway bars I have are not timed properly. In other words the splines are not aligned end to end, so I've got about a 3/4" to 1" difference in link length between the two sides. Odd stuff for what was advertised as "new" bars. Anyway, they are serving their purpose (mock up and testing), and I will be going to hollow bars as soon as I determine what size I want to settle on.

Sulley
12-17-2014, 07:57 PM
So will you be using hollow bars with HJ?

Blueovalz
12-22-2014, 09:12 PM
So will you be using hollow bars with HJ?

Eventually. Here is a couple of photos of the links. The arms are massive aluminum pieces that I may carefully cut down to what would be a more appropriate size and strength. The links are 3/8" Heim joints attached to swedged aluminum tubing. The lower link slips over the end of the bolt through the upright, the upper link uses a couple of aluminum plates held in place by a couple of 1/4" bolts.

The hollow bars will be in a future change, as will the heavy uprights. Now that I know what works as far as fit, shape, and size, it's time to make some lighter pieces out of 7050 aluminum.

http://www.fototime.com/9E9EF749873608D/standard.jpg

Below is the initial (much too complicated) link with the bracket sandwiching the swaybar arm. The reason I did that was to center the forces on the arm as much as was practical with the slight angle outward as the link drops to the upright. The above photo is a change I made after the below photo was taken, and after I tested that arm for any twisting weakness. I found that these aluminum arms are extremely rigid, so I decided to go ahead and off-center the Heim joint into a single shear mode (especially after looking at a GT40 MKIV rear bar with a very similar arrangement. This was the only spacer I could find in my box, so I need to get some shorter, and perhaps tapered spacers to strengthen this.

Simplicity is the nectar of racing.

http://www.fototime.com/F98570438E9EF85/standard.jpg

Sulley
12-25-2014, 07:47 PM
Looking good!

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